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Recent Publication in Environmental Justice - Shared screen with speaker view
Myrriah Gómez (she/her)
20:19
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Myrriah Gómez (she/her)
27:37
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Myrriah Gómez (she/her)
29:44
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ASL | Gloshanda (she/ella)
30:23
Can you start Spanish interpretation please?
Dwan Hilferty
31:26
If you stated the color passcode, the audio was unclear.
Brennan Spoor
31:51
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Myrriah Gómez (she/her)
33:08
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Myrriah Gómez (she/her)
33:25
The CLE word is blue.
Kenneth Orie
33:54
Myrriah, did you say, "BLUE" for the passcode?
Myrriah Gómez (she/her)
33:59
Yes.
Brennan Spoor
34:05
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Richard Traina
34:18
Is there something we have to do now with the CLE word, or is it just for the survey at the end of the day?
Stacy Ortego
34:40
Yes, the color was Blue that she mentioned
Haley Gentry
34:44
There will be CLE a poll during the meeting, and then in a large survey at the end of each day.
Brennan Spoor
36:44
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Jordan Lesser
40:59
Thank you for those remarks, I would like to introduce you to the Congress of Nations and States, an emerging international body seeking to create new mechanisms for implementing internationally enshrined principles and policies already agreed to by indigenous nations and states. www.CNSINT.org
Courtney Strickland
42:36
Is it just me or is the connection going in and out? I cant hear any sound
Myrriah Gómez (she/her)
42:46
It’s just you, Courtney.
Kenneth Orie
50:39
Oliver, from the litigation perspective of linking causation of cancer to exposure to pollutants in the cancer alley, there appears to be weak and scanty scientific studies making that link. In contrast, there is a body of scientific work in denial of the cancer alley phenomenon as being singularly a function of exposure to pollutants. I am not aware of any court case
Myrriah Gómez (she/her)
51:05
As a reminder, if you type your questions in the chat, I will ask them of the panelists in the second half of the session.
Kenneth Orie
51:24
court case buying the narrative of the cancer alley phenomenon. Are you?
Myrriah Gómez (she/her)
52:21
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/series/cancer-town
Will DeJean
52:36
Oliver, your thoughts on the dismissal of the Denka suit yesterday?
Myrriah Gómez (she/her)
52:42
https://www.amazon.com/Dina-Gilio-Whitaker/e/B01LOZ8O2K%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share
Myrriah Gómez (she/her)
53:00
https://www.amazon.com/Katrina-History-1915-2015-Andy-Horowitz-ebook/dp/B082DLMGF3/ref=sr_1_1?crid=N32ECND10QBA&dchild=1&keywords=andy+horowitz&qid=1614360132&s=digital-text&sprefix=andy+horowit%2Cdigital-text%2C215&sr=1-1
Andy Horowitz
53:36
So grateful for the link to my book, but if you’re going to buy it, buy local! https://www.octaviabooks.com/book/9780674971714
Myrriah Gómez (she/her)
54:14
Yes— sorry I used the Amazon link. BUY LOCAL!
Andrew Jacoby
54:22
Kenneth, "Cancer Alley" is a fitting description for the area of the country that has the highest *risk* of cancer. From The Intercept magazine, referencing EPA emissions data: that “According to the EPA’s most recent National Air Toxics Assessment, which was published in December 2015, the lifetime risk of cancer from air pollution in this area, which is less than 2 square miles, is a staggering 777 per million people, by far the highest in the country and more than 800 times the national average. Other census tracts near the plant had risks that were more than 200, 300, and 400 times higher.” Cancer Alley is fitting based on *risk* alone.
Andrew Jacoby
57:40
Relating to cancer *rates*, the relatively small data populations and the fact that it is the rare types of cancer (blood, brain, childhood cancers) that are environmentally/industrially caused makes achieving the 95% confidence threshold very difficult. But that doesn't mean that the elevated cancer rates aren't there. Rather, it just means that *some* researchers (like LTR) don't reach a definitive conclusion *either way*. That is, they don't say that there are or are not elevated rates. But we do not need to defer to a 95% Confidence Threshold as a barrier to good policies that protect public health. Consider that if I was 94% certain that a murderer was on his way to kill my family, I would not wait until I'm 95% certain before taking action. So why should we wait until 95% certainty to act?
Andrew Jacoby
58:51
Further, the industry (and LTR) very deceptively suggest that their personal conclusion that cancer rates do not meet the threshold of certainty is evidence that there is *not* a problem, to give the impression that there are no elevated rates, rather than as an indication that they do not know whether there are elevated rates.
Kenneth Orie
59:18
Andrew: Yes, but that does not seem to have worked in persuading courts in litigated cases.
Andrew Jacoby
01:02:13
I don't think there are any lawsuits that deal with Cancer Alley on a whole. There are some lawsuits within Cancer Alley dealing with specific sources of pollutants. I would be interested to see what courts/juries have ruled on that issue within those cases.
Richard Traina
01:07:24
Do any of the panelists have any thoughts on the plans to enlarge the Industrial Canal lock structure in NOLA and its impact on the surrounding community?
Myrriah Gómez (she/her)
01:07:55
Continue to ask questions. I am writing them down and will ask them in the order they were posed. Thank you.
Andy Horowitz
01:09:38
_Wastelanding_ is a fantastic book!
Ryan Anderson
01:10:17
Just so all the participants are aware, we will be holding a post-panel discussion after this session (in this Zoom room) from 12:20-1pm. Hope you will be able to join us!
Kenneth Orie
01:12:15
Andrew: Of course you have to drill down to linking specific health issues to specific pollutants and sources. Not aware of any favorable court ruling or even a Louisiana legislative acknowledgment of this problem in the Cancer Alley.
Christopher Dalbom
01:12:43
FYI: for those of us in New Orleans, Dina's words were just drowned out by US military fighter jets flying overhead. Irony, oh, irony.
Christopher Dalbom
01:25:12
I think the chances of the Industrial Canal expansion being built are very, very slim, but it's damning enough that it's a decades-old idea that just won't die.
Andy Horowitz
01:25:56
I agree with that
Kenneth Orie
01:29:13
Sadly, Senator Kennedy and other legislative reps from Louisiana wrote a letter to the EPA during the Trump administration urging the agency to weaken the already weak polluting oversight/standard regarding emissions from Denka plant.
Haley Gentry (she/her)
01:30:26
He said Cancer Alley, but no mention at all about Louisiana in the language of the orders. It was a spark of hope, but one that unfortunately leaves us wanting.
Kenneth Orie
01:33:31
It is a matter of semantics and framing. Nuclear "waste dump site" is not politically acceptable. You can have nuclear material storage sites, etc.
Kenneth Orie
01:34:41
Was environmental review done prior to burying the nuclear materials by the sea/water?
Myrriah Gómez (she/her)
01:35:43
It’s not “buried.” It’s in temporary holding until it can be moved to a permanent facility, but none exists, which is why it is a huge problem. But yes, they are required to do EIS for these sorts of projects.
Corinne Van Dalen
01:36:31
Vox article published today - There's a clear fix to helping Black communities fight pollution: https://www.vox.com/22299782/black-americans-environmental-justice-pollution
Clay Anthony
01:37:11
Any thoughts on the difficulty of communities in navigating the hazards that every direction of energy transition seems to present? Energy storage requiring the intensive extraction vs. nuclear energy as base power coming with its own extraction and waste issues vs. natural gas continuing to add greenhouse gases but indirectly contributes nearly a quarter of the state budget in New Mexico?
Brennan Spoor
01:42:52
And the panelists are welcome to stick around for the post-panel discussion that will occur in this Zoom room for the 45 minutes following the conclusion of the panel if they have time.
Kenneth Orie
01:44:21
Framing the issues to gain broad-based support: Cleaner environment for everybody is good economics for all. Need a strong coalition against those who resist change because they benefit from the status quo.
Dina Gilio-Whitaker
01:46:10
Thank you very much for the invite and openness
Callie Shaw
01:46:23
Thank you - excellent discussions!
Carter Byrd
01:46:36
Thank you
Amy Noll
01:46:38
Thank you all!
Haley Gentry (she/her)
01:46:38
Thank you! I hope some of you will stick around for a bit to have a group discussion!
Ryan Anderson (she/her)
01:52:30
Feel free to turn cameras on for the discussion!
Stephen Zollman (he/him)
02:26:13
Yes, thank you for having this part. Am an attorney from CA and former SF Public Defender
Meg Parish
02:26:22
Thank you!
Haley Gentry (she/her)
02:26:26
Thank you, and thank you Stephen!